SF Commercial Property Conversations
SF Commercial Property Conversations hosted by Bruce Bean is the go-to podcast for anyone fascinated by the intricacies of commercial real estate in the San Francisco Peninsula and beyond. Each episode dives deep into the world of commercial property investments, featuring insights from seasoned investors, industry experts, and professionals who have shaped the landscape of San Francisco’s market. Join us as we explore successful investment strategies, discuss the challenges and opportunities unique to the Bay Area, and uncover the stories behind the buildings that define our skyline. Whether you’re a CPA, doctor, retired professional, or someone with an interest in commercial real estate, this podcast offers unparalleled insights into making informed decisions in one of the world’s most competitive markets. From the dynamics of Triple Net Leases to the legacy of family trusts in real estate, ”SF Commercial Property Conversations” is your invitation to the conversation about building wealth, creating legacies, and investing in commercial properties wisely. With Bruce Bean’s expert guidance, get ready to unlock the strategies for success and be inspired by the journeys of those who’ve navigated the complex waters of commercial real estate investments.
Episodes

56 minutes ago
56 minutes ago
In this episode, Bruce Bean welcomes Rocio Luna, a dynamic commercial insurance broker based in Southern California. Rocio shares her unique journey into the world of insurance—starting from the ground up with zero experience, facing challenges head-on, and eventually transitioning from claims management to a thriving career in sales.
Rocio explains the significance of the EMR (Experience Modification Rate) in the world of contracting and staffing, offering valuable insights into how it impacts premium costs and contract opportunities. She talks about her early days juggling stacks of legal documents, learning the ropes via Google, and the power of empathy when guiding businesses through stressful claims.
Listeners will learn how Rocio’s psychology background unexpectedly empowered her to connect deeply with clients, and how she evolved her approach to cold-calling and lead generation—eventually building a strong referral-based business through platforms like LinkedIn.
Whether you're a small contractor, staffing agency, or someone curious about the behind-the-scenes of commercial insurance, Rocio’s story is an inspiring look into what it takes to turn adversity into opportunity.
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2 days ago
2 days ago
In this episode, Bruce Bean chats with Tim Chen, co-founder of Connected Companies, about his incredible journey from China to becoming a real estate entrepreneur in the U.S. Tim opens up about moving to the States with little English, failing early ventures, and how he finally broke into the commercial real estate world through sheer persistence.
He shares stories of cold-calling, learning on the job, and how he landed his first big opportunity at CBRE. Then, hear how Tim made the leap into co-founding Connected Companies, navigating the pandemic, and scaling a portfolio to over $100 million in assets under management.
Whether you're just starting out or already knee-deep in commercial real estate, this story of grit and growth will definitely inspire.
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7 days ago
7 days ago
In this episode, Bruce Bean chats with former athlete turned real estate entrepreneur, Javorn Ferrell, about his fascinating journey from pro basketball courts in Europe to leading build-to-rent housing developments across the U.S. Javorn shares how a desire to make a lasting community impact led him to Google “how to get rich”—and how that search brought him straight to real estate.
Javorn breaks down how he transitioned from single-family investing to the complex world of commercial real estate, specifically the growing niche of build-to-rent communities. He explains how his team scouts off-market land, why they prioritize less density and aesthetic appeal, and how they’ve succeeded by staying conservative and disciplined in a volatile market.
We also dive into specific markets like Texas, California, and Montana—and how his firm’s thoughtful approach has drawn trust from capital partners.
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Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Bryan Marks: Riding the Waves from Wind Surfing to LA Home Flipping
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
In this episode of SF Commercial Property Conversations, host Bruce Bean sits down with Bryan Marks, a real estate investor, home flipper, and realtor with a unique journey. From windsurfing instructor to advertising professional, pilot, and eventually a real estate entrepreneur, Bryan shares how his unexpected start in real estate led to a successful career in flipping homes and helping others build wealth through property investment.
Bryan discusses his first accidental investment in Laurel Canyon, his experience managing properties across California, and the lessons he’s learned along the way. He also dives into how technology is reshaping real estate, his decision to join Compass for its cutting-edge CRM, and how he uses data-driven insights to stay ahead in the market.
If you’re curious about home flipping, wealth-building through real estate, or the current state of the LA housing market, this episode is packed with valuable insights and real-world experience.
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Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
Blending Bytes and Brick-and-Mortar: David Blumenfeld on NextRivet Success
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
How do shopping centers, commercial properties, and mixed-use spaces keep up with the rapid evolution of digital technology? In this episode, Bruce Bean sits down with David Blumenfeld, co-founder of NextRivet, to discuss how his company is bridging the gap between digital innovation and physical spaces.
With years of experience in San Francisco’s tech scene and as part of Westfield Labs' founding executive team, David shares his insights into how AI and technology are reshaping commercial real estate. He explains how shopping centers are evolving beyond just enhancing the customer experience to leveraging digital solutions for security, operations, and building efficiency.
David also dives into:✔️ How NextRivet spun out of Westfield Labs and became a leader in tech-driven real estate solutions✔️ The global demand for smart shopping centers and commercial spaces✔️ Why the Middle East is one of the hottest markets for digital innovation in real estate✔️ The importance of vendor neutrality and selecting the right technology for each unique client✔️ How NextRivet helps businesses streamline digital transformation
About Our Guest:David Blumenfeld is the co-founder of NextRivet, a consulting firm specializing in bringing digital transformation to commercial, retail, and multifamily real estate. His company helps real estate owners and operators navigate the complex landscape of tech solutions to improve operations and customer experiences.
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Thursday Apr 17, 2025
Thursday Apr 17, 2025
1031 exchanges can be complicated, but what if they could also be... fun? In this episode, Bruce Bean sits down with Kayla Frerking, a true leader in 1031 exchanges and a key player at Leader 1031, a subsidiary of Leader Bank. Kayla breaks down the complexities of 1031 exchanges, shares how she’s making tax code exciting, and talks about her unique "Deal or No Deal" game show approach to educating brokers, attorneys, and investors.
In this episode, we discuss:
The basics of 1031 exchanges and how they help investors defer capital gains taxes
Why Kayla believes education is key—and how she’s making tax rules more engaging
The most common misconceptions about 1031 exchanges and how to avoid costly mistakes
The role of Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) in real estate investment strategies
How interest rates and the broader real estate market impact 1031 exchange activity
Kayla’s nationwide approach to educating investors and professionals in the field
Kayla’s passion for tax codes (yes, you read that right!) and her deep industry knowledge make this a must-listen for anyone considering a 1031 exchange.
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Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Jonathan Mitchell: Energizing San Diego’s Multi-Family Market
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
In this episode of SF Commercial Property Conversations, host Bruce Bean sits down with Jonathan Mitchell, a dynamic real estate developer in San Diego. Jonathan shares his journey from running a multimillion-dollar solar company to diving headfirst into real estate development. With a passion for transforming distressed properties into thriving multi-family units, Jonathan discusses how San Diego’s zoning laws allow for increased ADU density, the challenges of navigating a competitive market, and why he prefers stick-built over modular units.
He also opens up about his faith-driven approach to business, his experience growing up in Section 8 housing, and his goal of creating more affordable housing in San Diego. Tune in to hear how Jonathan’s team is strategically acquiring and developing properties, leveraging networking and community events, and planning for the future of real estate in California.
In This Episode, We Cover:
Jonathan’s transition from solar to real estate development
How San Diego’s zoning laws impact ADU development
The benefits and challenges of stick-built vs. modular construction
Strategies for finding and acquiring investment properties
The role of faith, community, and business in Jonathan’s journey
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Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Small Town Roots, Billion-Dollar Vision: The Chris Groves Story
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
From a small Wisconsin town to moving multi-billion-dollar infrastructure deals, Chris Groves shares a story packed with grit, hustle, and a sharp eye for where the money’s going next. In this episode, Bruce and Chris dive into infrastructure lending—a space Chris calls one of the most exciting and under-the-radar investment frontiers today. Chris walks us through his journey from real estate to launching Groves Capital with his wife, to becoming a partner at GIA where he's handling $20B+ in annual capacity for infrastructure and reinsurance-backed projects.
We get into:
How Chris made the leap from fitness and real estate to global infrastructure finance
Why reinsurance is the backbone of funding for projects like hospitals, hydrogen energy, and trash-to-fuel tech
What it takes to get a $100M+ project underwritten (hint: 276 questions and serious modeling)
Why 9 out of 10 deals never make it past GIA’s front door—and why the ones that do are changing the world
The future of AI, crypto, and commercial lending
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Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Hustle, Grit, and Insurance: Shantelle Cabir’s Blue-Collar Success Story
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
In this episode of SF Commercial Property Conversations, host Bruce Bean sits down with Shantelle Cabir, a powerhouse in the insurance industry who has built her career serving blue-collar businesses. From starting as a telemarketer at 16 to becoming a top producer at Newfront, Shantelle shares her incredible journey, the lessons she learned along the way, and why she’s so passionate about helping businesses navigate risk management.
Shantelle discusses how she built her reputation by focusing on construction, janitorial, agriculture, manufacturing, and distribution businesses. She shares insights into the challenges facing the insurance industry today, including skyrocketing auto insurance rates, legislative hurdles in California, and how technology and AI are shaping the future of insurance.
If you're a business owner looking to better understand how insurance impacts your bottom line—or if you're just fascinated by stories of grit and hustle—this episode is for you!
In This Episode:✅ How Shantelle went from cold-calling at 16 to leading insurance expert✅ Why blue-collar businesses need specialized insurance solutions✅ The biggest risks businesses face and how to prepare for them✅ How AI and technology are changing the insurance landscape✅ The importance of industry networks like WCOE for building a referral-based business
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Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
Marc Ampil: The Supply Chain Strategist Turned Real Estate Investor
Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
Wednesday Apr 09, 2025
In this episode of SF Commercial Property Conversations with Bruce Bean, we sit down with Marc Ampil, a former supply chain consultant turned real estate investor and commercial real estate agent. Marc shares his journey from working long hours in consulting to finding financial freedom through real estate investing.
Marc dives into how he got started in real estate, the strategies he used to build his portfolio, and why Memphis, Tennessee, became a key investment location for him. He explains the 1% rule for evaluating rental properties, his approach to short-term vs. long-term rentals, and why he shifted his focus from direct-to-owner marketing to finding opportunities on the MLS.
Now a commercial real estate agent in Southern California, Marc talks about how he helps clients buy and sell investment properties, his marketing strategies, and the importance of personal relationships in the industry. Whether you’re an investor, a business owner, or just curious about real estate, this episode has plenty of insights for you.
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